20 Dec 2012 
#16 More about the Life of Adam ... Updated from OHJ

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A) Recapitulation (from preceding post #15):
In Life of Adam (Greek version):
1) "Paradise" is the garden of Eden (i 1, vii 1, etc.).
2) Adam lives on earth with Eve, Seth and descendants (v 1-4, etc.).
3) Seth, Eve & Adam go near Paradise, alive and by themselves (x 1, xxx 1, xiv 1).
4) The body of dead Adam lays on the earth, in Paradise, as visited by God coming from heaven (xxxviii 3-5).
5) Later Abel is buried near Adam's tomb, which is where God created Adam (xl 6).
6) Still later, Eve is buried by Seth near Abel & Adam (xliii). Afterwards, after helping Seth for the burial, angel Michael ascends to heaven (implying the burial was on earth!).

The picture is consistent about Paradise = garden of Eden being on earth.

However, right before 4), at xxxvii 4, the body of Adam is said to be transported by angels to Paradise (so far no problem), which is specified to be in third heaven (clashing with xxxviii 2-5, etc.)

Also, right after 4), the body of Adam is said laid in Paradise (again no problem here), specified to be in third heaven (clashing with xxxviii 2-5, etc.)

So, in my view,
Either "earth" (with the garden of Eden = Paradise) is in third heaven, where Adam, Abel, Eve lived and are buried, where Seth has his many descendants, where God created Adam, etc. , which is very unlikely.
OR
the two "third heaven" were added later as an interpolation.

B) Dating:
Looking at this website, it seems there is a consensus about the original version as written in a Semitic language before 70 CE.
Therefore the Greek version came later. When?
According to the Wikipedia entry for the Life of Adam and Eve, the versions from the disappeared Semitic original would be dated from the early 3rd to the 5th century.

C) Was "Paradise in third heaven" a belief then?
If it was when the Greek version was written, it would have been well integrated into the text. Instead it looks like interpolations. Furthermore, this third heaven is not in the Latin, Slavonic and Armenian versions.
However, "Paradise" (= garden of Eden) appears in 2 Enoch 8 (written 1st century). But there is no mention here that Adam was buried in it.
I am digressing now, but I am starting to think "third" was added to "heaven" in 2 Cor 12:2 and "heaven" was replaced by "Paradise" in 12:4. Why?
Paul had many opportunities elsewhere in his epistles to use "Paradise" or "third heaven" but did not. And in the whole NT outside the Paulines, "Paradise" appears only in Lk 23:43 (but it is in the underworld!) and Revelation 2:7 (= garden of Eden).
Furthermore "third heaven" and "paradise" appear within three consecutive verses: that's very suspicious. 
Note: Italics written following Gakuseidon's comment

D) About the
Georgian version:
The Georgian version (which also has two occurrences of Paradise in third heaven) seems to have come later than the Greek version: it is better written and avoid some of the problems of the Greek version. Also, it has Christian elements:
"[42]13.3 This is not to be right now but in the future times, when five thousand years will be completed. Then, at the five and a half thousandth year, the beloved son of God, Christ, will come upon the earth to r(esurrect) Adam's body from his fall, because of the transgression of the commands. [42]13.4 He will come and he will be baptized in the river Jordan. And as soon as he will have come forth from of the water with the (anointing) of oil, he will anoint him, him [42]13.5 and all his descendants, so that they will rise at the time of the resurrection. The Lord said, 'I will admit them into paradise and I will anoint them with that unction.'"

In it, Adam & Eve, after leaving Paradise, live on earth, with two of its rivers named (Tigris & Jordan).
In the first verse, Adam & Eve go out of Paradise (garden of Eden) by themselves (not with angels) (Paradise seems to be on earth here!). But, (a problems is solved!):
After the angel Michael brings Adam's body in third heaven, which is also declared here to be Paradise (conflicting with the book beginning), God finds Adam on earth, because the corpse had fallen (from third heaven! but no mention of any fall in the Greek version). Then the body is brought back by Michael to third heaven to be buried. Also the dead bodies of Abel and Eve are transported to third heaven & buried here by angels.

It seems Carrier was looking at the Georgian version, when he declared in his "Critical Review of Maurice Casey's Defense of the Historicity of Jesus", Section: Inanna Wasn’t Crucified, She Was Just Nailed Up Dead:
"The Revelation of Moses has Adam buried in heaven (in the Garden he was made from, the very Garden Paul says was in the “third heaven” in 2 Cor. 12, just as the Rev. Mos. also says, in which Adam’s fall is described literally: a fall from the heavenly Garden to the earth below). So there’s even dirt in heaven, and corpses, and graves (Eve is also buried there, along with others)."

Carrier made a good observation about "Paradise and "third heaven" appearing in Paul's 2nd epistle to the Corinthians. That suggests to me the inclusion of "third heaven" in "life of Adam" was made by a Christian interpolator, as corroboration of the location of Paradise according to Paul. And if (undeniable) Christian interpolations were made on the Georgian version, why not in the Greek one? 

And in "On The Historicity Of Jesus" (OHJ) (p. 196-197), Carrier makes full use of the christianized Georgian version, obviously written after the gospels, and likely much later, after the Greek version (3rd cent. at the earliest) for supporting his case:
"And in fact the Revelation of Moses says Adam was buried in Paradise, literally up in outer space, in the third heaven, complete with celestial linen and oils. Thus human corpses could be buried in the heavens. Because there was obviously soil up in Paradise—in fact, not only is all manner of celestial vegetation planted in it, but when Adam is buried in it, he is buried in the same place from which God took the clay of which Adam was made. In many other Jewish apocrypha there are accounts of all manner of solid structures in all other levels of heaven, too, so tombs and graves obviously can exist there as well. Thus, according to the Revelation of Moses, Adam is cast down from Paradise, residing on earth below for the remainder of his life; but in death his body is carried back up to the heavens for burial. Abel is likewise buried there, and later so is Eve, and many others among the righteous dead. This also means the original Tree of Life is in outer space (being in the very Paradise which is located in the third heaven), just as the true Temple and Altar of God are in outer space."

Cordially, Bernard

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Comment from: gakuseidon

2 Enoch refers to Paradise being in the Third Heaven, but since it is hard to date it, difficult to work out whether it influenced other writings or not.

>>2 Enoch, Chapter 8

1 And those men took me thence, and led me up on to the third heaven, and placed me there; and I looked downwards, and saw the produce of these places, such as has never been known for goodness.

2 And I saw all the sweet-flowering trees and beheld their fruits, which were sweet-smelling, and all the foods borne by them bubbling with fragrant exhalation.

3 And in the midst of the trees that of life, in that place whereon the Lord rests, when he goes up into paradise; and this tree is of ineffable goodness and fragrance, and adorned more than every existing thing; and on all sides it is in form gold-looking and vermilion and fire-like and covers all, and it has produce from all fruits.

4 Its root is in the garden at the earth’s end.

5 And paradise is between corruptibility and incorruptibility.

6 And two springs come out which send forth honey and milk, and their springs send forth oil and wine, and they separate into four parts, and go round with quiet course, and go down into the PARADISE OF EDEN, between corruptibility and incorruptibility.

7 And thence they go forth along the earth, and have a revolution to their circle even as other elements.

8 And here there is no unfruitful tree, and every place is blessed.<<
2012-12-27
Your comment: from: mullerb

Right, I'll have to make corrections in the OPs.
I am starting to think "third" was added to "heaven" in 2 Cor 12:2 and "heaven" was replaced by "Paradise" in 12:4.
Paul had many opportunities elsewhere in his epistles to use "Paradise" or "third heaven" but did not.
In the whole NT outside the Paulines, "Paradise" appears only in Lk 23:43 (but it is in the underworld!) and Revelation 2:7 (= garden of Eden).
Thanks, Bernard
2012-12-27